16 Comments on "Pottery Video of the Week: Slipware Decoration – Mocha Diffusion and Slip Dotting Pottery"
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Pat Schachy May 27, 2013 at 4:22 pm -Is manganese oxid (mocha tea technique) “food save”(f.e. on dishes) when covered with clear glaze?
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bd kibbey December 28, 2012 at 4:03 pm -I experimented with this for my son’s (also a potter). Christmas gift…Thank you, Robin!!
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Darla March 26, 2012 at 1:05 pm -will the acid residues used in the mocha diffusion (lemon juice, vinegar, coffee, tobacco) effect the coils of the kiln or cause them to deteriorate more quickly? will the manganese used for the dendritic effect be “food safe” once it is covered with a clear glaze? Will the manganese liberate harmful fumes when firing the greenware such that the fumes might effect other pieces in the kiln or otherwise contaminate my kiln?
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Joanne May 4, 2011 at 1:12 pm -and just noticed there are about 9 different types of kaolin too, which do you use?
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Joanne May 4, 2011 at 1:02 pm -what type of feldspar do you use. I went to order some feldspar and found 3 different kinds and I am too much of a newby to decide which is best (but I think the Custer may be the one if “refractory” means diffusion): Feldspar, Custer — A potash feldspar used in both clay bodies and glazes. It can function as a flux or as a refractory depending upon formula and firing temperature. Feldspar, Kona F-4 — A soda feldspar used in clay bodies and glazes where a sodium flux is required. Feldspar, G-200 — A potash feldspar used in glazes and clay bodies.
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Robin April 30, 2011 at 4:31 pm -Terry, I started researching Mocha Diffusions when I was a student when I found some old pieces. I found out that the process usually used a stinky sludge from boiled tobacco leaves. I figured that this was just a mild acid, so I tried every mild acid I could think of: Orange Juice, Lemon Juice, coffee, tea, urine, wine, vinegars etc.. But the one that worked best for me and I’m still using 50+ years later is Natural Apple Cider Vinegar, usually available at any grocery store. Try it and See!
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terry April 30, 2011 at 3:49 pm -Well it’s nice to know that I can use different sources of acid – I’ve been chewing nicotine patches in order to cut down on my baccy habit…. Seriously, what a lovely technique – can’t wait to try this out – thank you Robin! Terry
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Robin April 29, 2011 at 11:51 pm -Many thanks for your varied responses. GINNY – This decorative slipware process is normally done in earthenware at around cone 04 in temperature. At that temperature the glaze will most likely not obliterate the feathery qualities as the glaze hardly starts to absorb or fuse the colorant of the diffusion. However, I choose to do this work on porcelain – the object shown is a black colored porcelain – at cone 8 – 10, part of the colorant will be absorbed into the glaze so I prefer to do it unglazed from choice. Just because a traditional process is normally done at one temperature doesn’t mean that you can’t radically change the temperature, but you will most likely have to slightly change the recipe. Trial and error is normally the best way. Timing is one of the most important considerations with this process – if the clay object is too soft it will likely slump. Too hard and it will likely crack. The other important thing is to get the viscosity or thickness of the slip right. Some people like it fairly thin, others like it quite thick. Try it and see! It is best to use a slip like the one given as it is quite alkaline. The Mocha Mix of colorant and vinegar is mild acid. Together they have a reaction. Prepared clay bodies often don’t have the right degree of alkaline or plastic material so don’t work as well. When you work with Mocha diffusions it is good to have a small slab of clay to test on first. It sometimes takes a little time to get the acid/alkaline balance just right. Best wishes with it. Robin
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April April 29, 2011 at 6:21 pm -Wonderfully beautiful AND simple to do. Doesn’t get better than that. I also have his beginner’s throwing on the wheel DVD I highly recommend it. Thank you for the clips:) I HAVE to get this DVD!
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Ginny April 29, 2011 at 4:20 pm -Does it really ruin the feathery tree-like effect if you put a clear glaze over it?? Does this work over slip made from the clay body? I always learn from Robin Hopper’s books and videos, and they are entertaining, too. Thanks!
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nigel April 29, 2011 at 2:15 pm -Mocha effects can also be produced with tea or coffee – these will break down the surface tension of the various slips causing them to bleed and product the fine feather like tendrils of colour. Another decorative technique is using an actual feather then gently mix and swerl the different coloured slips – this will produce a marble effect simular to banging or tilting the form after applying the coloured liquid slips.
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Christine April 29, 2011 at 1:32 pm -Thank you for giving us simple readily available materials to simplify the process and achieve wonderful results
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Evelyn April 29, 2011 at 12:58 pm -Robin Hopper is the most inspirational teacher, speaker who always amazes me how God really uses him to bless many others with ideas and thoughts. Thank you for making this available to others.
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Francine April 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm -Thank you Mr. Hopper, this is timely, I’ve been exploring with Mocha Diffusion in the last few weeks and I do have so much more to learn. I love all your work and “un gros merci” for your generosity of your expertise.
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Valerie April 29, 2011 at 11:56 am -OH WOW!!!! I can’t wait to try this! This is awesome…I love it that no matter how long one works with clay there is ALWAYS something new to learn. It never ends!!!! Gee, now I gotta decide…clean house or try this Mocha Fusion method in clay….hmmm, guess which one wins?
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Murry April 29, 2011 at 11:45 am -Robin Hopper is a great teacher and I love watching him explain different techniques. What is strange is that just this morning I was trying to explain mocha diffusion to two of my students who are potters(I teach biology, not ceramics)and as soon as class was over I opened e-mail and, poof, there is Robin Hopper explaining it. Excellent!
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