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  1. In Topic: I'm considering full time production pottery

    Posted 5 Jul 2012

    I would really consider those questions Mark C bought up.

    Exactly where are you going to sell your wares?

    When I was first getting into this, I compiled a list of possible shows. Look at craft versus art shows.

    And the question of retailing versus wholesaling is big. I'm not a big fan of trying to do both, although a lot of potters seem to do both well. I do think wholesaling is more competitive and you have to be more precise in your output. Recently I worked for a friend potter at a wholesale show for Mississippi based exhibitors ... and there were something like 18 potters there (http://www.mississippimarket.org/exhibitors/directory/category/Pottery_Stoneware). I do see quite a bit of pottery that is not priced to sell at a traditional 2X mark up because it does not really have the perceived value at the retail price. If you have retail stores or gallery accounts you can not sell below a 2x mark up without alienating those wholesale accounts. I like the quicker turn I get by pricing at less than retail prices. Also, I've found that consistency is not necessary. Pieces I would have discarded have sold at the marked price.

    IMO it is a lot easier to skip the wholesaling for a period of time.

    Look at all these people doing pottery full time. (just look at those 18 in Mississippi that wholesale and I know at least 20 more potters just from this state that weren't there). More people are going to make this a career. ONE of those people might as well be you :rolleyes:

    One more point: I found I needed additional kilns. I fooled around with a few substandard models. Buying a good production model kiln was an essential move. So evaluate your kiln situation carefully.

    On that $16K .... I think it is feasible to sell $16k a year (and more) but not necessarily feasible to sell $1200 every month. You will have to plan for ebbs and flows of cash flow. You will have to keep a supply of clay/glaze all the time, especially in your low sales months so you can stock pile for events or seasons. Even now I would not want to 100% depend on monthly sales to fund my business or myself. I can depend on yearly sales ... but not monthly.
  2. In Topic: I'm considering full time production pottery

    Posted 3 Jul 2012

    I set my bare minimum break even point at $24K in retail sales per year. In October I will have been doing this two years and I have added one full time employee and sales for 2012 have already exceeded $24k, but with an added employee expense. I project at least 60% of my sales will be in the 4th quarter. I moved to my retail/prodution/living location one year ago. Opened the retail shop last November.

    It took me almost a year to start cash flowing. The business has been cash flowing since December 2011. (exception: I used my real estate account to buy a L&L kiln) I needed time to build a line and get a decent level of inventory. You have to allow for the time waiting for shows.

    How long do you think it will take you to build an adequate level of inventory? I sell most (75%) of my wares in my small retail location, which is located on a major hwy between 2 small towns and is 9 miles from a casino. I have ebbs and flows in sales. At the end of May I did a complete assessment and found I had sold 80% of my yearly production, with 40% of my sales in the month of May. I am really trying to build inventory for 4th quarter, as sales for the pottery is following the same slaes pattern of retail gift stores. Last December I sold every piece I had and every piece I could make. I only sell retail, no wholesaling so I can push product to consumers at a wholesale price without the problem of alienating wholesale accounts.

    The biggest limitation I face is production. I now have one full time worker and we put out a minimum of $2000 of finished product a week. (more if I doing a lot of jewelry) I use a cost based pricing strategy. I will share these numbers with you: (its a cut and paste and the table divisions didn't space. There are 3 sets of numbers for 3 different product categories.

    Serve Ware, Larger Items------Ornaments/Crosses------ Jewelry
    Cost of Clay 6%--- 2% ---- 1%
    Cost of Glazing 10% --- 3% --- 1%
    Electricity to run Kilns 5% 2% 1%
    Labor Output Clay $400 Day $600 Day $900 Day
    Glazing Output $500 Day $700 Day $900 Day
    Assembly Time 0 ---- 0 ----$2500 Day (only on jewelry)
    Finished Product $450/day $650/day $720/day
    Labor Ratio to Output Value 17% 12% 10%(basically i have 4 days making, 1 day assembly)
    Findings 0----0---- 5%
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________
    Gross Margin 38% 19% 18%

    *Owners Profit (labor) 20%
    **Profit Margin for Business 15%
    ***Operations Cost 20%
    Advertising/Promotion (shows included) 5%

    Net: 35-55% profit on gross production (35% serve ware, 55% ornaments/jewelry)

    * If you don't have labor, this will even out as your production output will be less.
    **A competitive profit margin is 15% in today's market (20% used to be the standard)
    ** Standard for production business ... I am seeing that this cost can be lower for a home based pottery business, around 10% or even lower. But I think this could be consumed on kiln expenses at a later date.

    The biggest challenge for me is production. Sticking to quotas and getting out product. You have no time leverage at all. I've never had a "manufacturing" business before and don't particularly like the production limitation of inventory. I yearn for the old retail days when I could order more than I could pay for in 30 minutes. We are getting slightly faster and producing more. (glazing output has gone up to $600 a day now) I have no idea how these numbers stack up to industry averages because I have not seen any. I ran my retail stores completely on sales to cost ratios and I find these numbers acceptable. These numbers are the ones I calculated in May.

    Good luck with your decision.
  3. In Topic: To Be or Not To Be

    Posted 3 Jul 2012

    "noobies selling their wares"

    The key word here is "selling". If the pottery sells who cares how long someone has been doing this.

    I can not imagine any one any where going up to a noobie and telling them they need more experience to be at the show unless they wanted to be blasted with 4 letter words. The only way this could come up is if a noob ASKED why they were not selling very much.

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