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  1. In Topic: negative, rude or blunt post in threads

    Posted 18 May 2013

    View PostOffCenter, on 18 May 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

    View PostGEP, on 18 May 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

    View PostOffCenter, on 18 May 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

    View PostGEP, on 18 May 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

    For the record everyone, what we now call "the internet" has existed since the early 1970s.


    I don't think most people would agree with you. I certainly don't. The infrastructure that the Internet is built on was in the early stages of development in the late '70's (not early) but the Internet as we know it today has only been around since the early '90's. Saying the Internet has been around since the early '70's is like saying the automobile has been around since 3,000 BCE because that is when the wheel was invented.

    Jim


    We started calling it "the internet" in the 80s. The infrastructure existed long before that, including things like bulletin boards, as Stephen mentioned.


    But that's not what you said. You said, "For the record everyone, what we now call "the internet" has existed since the early 1970s." And, that is not true.

    Jim


    Put your reading glasses on Jim. What we NOW call "the internet" existed in the 70s, it had other names back then.
  2. In Topic: negative, rude or blunt post in threads

    Posted 18 May 2013

    View PostOffCenter, on 18 May 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

    View PostGEP, on 18 May 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

    For the record everyone, what we now call "the internet" has existed since the early 1970s.


    I don't think most people would agree with you. I certainly don't. The infrastructure that the Internet is built on was in the early stages of development in the late '70's (not early) but the Internet as we know it today has only been around since the early '90's. Saying the Internet has been around since the early '70's is like saying the automobile has been around since 3,000 BCE because that is when the wheel was invented.

    Jim


    We started calling it "the internet" in the 80s. The infrastructure existed long before that, including things like bulletin boards, as Stephen mentioned. You are referring to the commercialized form of the internet, which came into existence in the 90s.
  3. In Topic: negative, rude or blunt post in threads

    Posted 18 May 2013

    Just want to add one more note .... if someone has seriously offended you on the forum, if you feel the need to do something about it, by far the best thing to do is tell that person directly that they have offended you. You can use the PM (private message) function if you don't want to do it publicly. Written words on the internet have their limits, sometimes it's just a misunderstanding. Sometimes a poster just needs some education about what is offensive to other groups of people.

    But what really doesn't work is to generalize the problem as a forum-wide problem. I know this from working in a community studio with about 100 potters. If there is a behavior problem, you cannot just tell the entire population "somebody is causing a problem" because everyone will think "it must be somebody else." You can only correct the problem by directly telling the problem-causer what they are doing wrong.

    Mea
  4. In Topic: negative, rude or blunt post in threads

    Posted 18 May 2013

    View PostOffCenter, on 18 May 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

    View PostMichaelP, on 17 May 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

    View PostStephen, on 17 May 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

    I have been involved with forums (newsgroups b4 forums and bulletin boards b4 the newsgroups ) for close two 30 years
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    For the record everyone, what we now call "the internet" has existed since the early 1970s.
  5. In Topic: negative, rude or blunt post in threads

    Posted 18 May 2013

    View PostOffCenter, on 17 May 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

    Someone coming here and immediately telling all of us the way it ought to be without giving any info about themselves is rude. It is like walking into a roomful of people and starting to lecture people without, at least, introducing yourself. The profile page is a way to back up what you say here. As a potter, I want to see what kind of pots you make. For me, that is what determines if what you have to say is worth paying attention to or ignoring. I couldn't care less what someone says here if they are too rude to even introduce themselves.

    Jim


    Jim, this is an internet forum. Everyone has the right to come here and do just that. These are your own personal rules for judging someone's credibility, and you are welcome to use them. But everyone else has the right to use their own standards. I like that some here use their real names and photos, but I have no problem with anyone who wants to remain completely anonymous. Heck, there might be natural-treasure-type potters here using a pseudonym. We don't know. Again, this is the internet, it comes with the territory.



    Stephen, I agree with others that compared to interent forums in general, this one has a overflow of respectfulness and intelligence and purpose. That doesn't mean it never goes sideways. As a moderator, I believe in allowing people to express themselves honestly. Though I cringe when words like "stupid" and "ugly" are used, just because it is unpleasant, doesn't mean it should be stopped. Everyone else has the right to respond to anything they don't like, either by posting, using the plus/minus buttons, the report button, there are lots of ways to be heard. If you are reading walls of posts in a short time frame, the hostility might seem condensed. But if you stick around long enough to get a long-term view, you'll see how sparse it is. To me it seems that those who are seriously internet-socialization-deficient don't stay very long, because there are too many rational minds here, and they don't get the attention they need. I will note that, although extremely rare, moderators and administrators have dealt with people behind the scenes when there is a serious problem. Go free speech! But yes there is a limit here.

    Mea

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