Where do you sign you name? Chop, signature or letting the design speak for itself?
#1
Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:37 PM
Until recently I have been using the end of a pencil (the eraser tip) to put a round circle on my pots. That is my mark. Simple and no-one really knows who made it.
Now I want to branch out and either start to sign my pieces or get a chop.
I have made chops but find them finicky to get them just right and to show my initials.
I have one I got while in China but it can be cumbersome and does not always fit on the ring of the foot.
I have seen people smear some slip and write their names through the bottom of the pots base.
I have read that the finishing of the pot (including the signature) should add and not take away from the aesthetic.
How do you sign you work?? Do you date it?? Do you use initials or a design??
I am thinking about branching out and getting a real chop made that is sturdy and done with some sort of metal to really impress the clay??
How do you let people know who made the pot or is it really of any great importance in the end??
I remember when I asked a well known potter why he didn't sign my pot that I purchased from him and he said "look, my hands are all over this pot--that is my signature." It made sense to me and I walked away.
How important is your signature to you as an artist?
Nelly
#2
Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:44 PM
If we're talking organic chawans, then I think the mark should be similar organic... A scrawled signature, a distinguishable mark, but nothing too fancy.
If someone's work is more formal / precise, then I think maybe a definitive stamp or chop would look more appropriate.
For my own work, I sketched a design that I liked with my initials and sent it off to http://www.jetstamps.com/ . I've been very happy with the stamp I got, it consistently produces a crisp design that fits my aesthetic.
But yeah... I guess my answer is "it depends" (on your aesthetic).
#3
Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:27 PM
#4
Posted 12 April 2013 - 08:21 PM
I love pots and potters yet fully 1/3 of my collection have extremely poor signage and I hate to admit how many I own where i have no idea of who made them or where to get more.
I have a brass stamp of my signature that goes on the from or bottom of each piece. I never put the date on.
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#5
Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:49 PM
#6
Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:01 PM
mregecko, on 12 April 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:
If we're talking organic chawans, then I think the mark should be similar organic... A scrawled signature, a distinguishable mark, but nothing too fancy.
If someone's work is more formal / precise, then I think maybe a definitive stamp or chop would look more appropriate.
For my own work, I sketched a design that I liked with my initials and sent it off to http://www.jetstamps.com/ . I've been very happy with the stamp I got, it consistently produces a crisp design that fits my aesthetic.
But yeah... I guess my answer is "it depends" (on your aesthetic).
Dear Mregecko,
Thank you for that site. It looks good. And yes, what I want is for it to be crisp. Thank you for your time in sending me this site and letting me know your success with the products.
Nelly
#7
Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:02 PM
RDWolff, on 12 April 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:
That sounds nice too. I am sure the imprint has a nice quality to it.
Nelly
#8
Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:06 PM
Chris Campbell, on 12 April 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:
I love pots and potters yet fully 1/3 of my collection have extremely poor signage and I hate to admit how many I own where i have no idea of who made them or where to get more.
I have a brass stamp of my signature that goes on the from or bottom of each piece. I never put the date on.
Dear Chris,
I agree. I am at the stage where I want my name on what leaves my studio. I also want it clearly legible. I agree, the obscure symbols can make a person wonder and have to look for the source.
Nelly
#9
Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:23 PM
I'm not a businessman, so I am not concerned with someone tracking me down, because they liked something I made. Now, when my work becomes all the rage, I guess the unreadable signature, will have to go unattributed.
#10
Posted 13 April 2013 - 06:56 AM
Here is my design, the bridge had to be simplified as the design is only 1.5"

Here is the design 4clay made from the image above, I will update with a picture of the stamp in clay once I have got the stamp.

#11
Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:57 AM
Also, I had a pretty nice pot sitting on my shelf for five years without a signature. Many, many people looked at the piece and almost bought it until they noticed it wasn't signed, then put it back and bought something else that they didn't like as much but had a signature. Finally one lady came in with a sharpie marker and asked me to sign the bottom, then bought it. So signatures do matter to customers.
#12
Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:03 AM
Simply because one of them believes she would be able to sell it at a higher price when I dye.
(Not that I am planning to for at least 30 years; and NO, it won't go up in price after that
They all want a signature! Crazy.
So, I checked websites http://www.jetstamps.com and http://www.4clay.com and the latter looks like a more advanced in technology.
#13
Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:46 AM
RDWolff, on 13 April 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:
A quarter is in the photo for scale. They must have been for an offset/ linotype printing press originally, but I've never seen solid brass ones, normally they were always a lead alloy.

Dear RD,
Those are absolutely beautiful. I like the 5 and 9 as well. Nice find. I am sure it really adds to your pieces to have your pieces signed using these letters. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing them with me.
Nelly
#14
Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:46 PM
I made the mistake of ordering it in a fairly small font and if the clay is a little to damp then quite often I have clay tear out between the loops in the "e", "o"and "y". I don't remember the size font I ordered but the stamp is about 1 1/4" in length and contains 7 letters, if ordering again I would get the next size up. The other thing with custom stamps is do you get them big enough to be noticable on a large platter or small enough to look right on a mug bottom, kinda pricy buying different sizes.
#15
Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:36 PM
TJR.
#16
Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:08 PM
RDWolff, on 13 April 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:
Nelly, on 13 April 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:
Dear RD,
Nelly
Thanks Nelly,
I use the brass letters and numbers just to impress the design number and date of completion on the top rear of the original model similar to how they did in the 1800s with architectural terracotta my work is based on, so it follows that concept there, and I write in my name.

After a mold is made all of that is permanently in the mold and all casts taken from the mold. On the back of each cast before they harden all of my casts are numbered so I write in the number of the cast, the date and sign it.
Dear Randall,
Now to me, that way of signing your name has definite style. It is class act. Thank you for sharing. I may see if I can find some of this sort of font in trying to get a stamp created. Your design is quite lovely though.
Nelly
#17
Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:50 AM
Min, on 13 April 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:
Having the signature "in scale" and feeling "correct" for the particular work, and clearly legible would seem to be worth the expense in the "big picture".
best,
.....................john
Immediate Past President; Potters Council
Professor of Ceramics; New Hampshire Insitute of Art
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
#18
Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:55 PM
SShirley, on 13 April 2013 - 08:57 AM, said:
Also, I had a pretty nice pot sitting on my shelf for five years without a signature. Many, many people looked at the piece and almost bought it until they noticed it wasn't signed, then put it back and bought something else that they didn't like as much but had a signature. Finally one lady came in with a sharpie marker and asked me to sign the bottom, then bought it. So signatures do matter to customers.
Dear SShirley,
Yes, I think they do matter. I remember once going to a sale of a local well known potter and I bought a fairly large vase. It was not one of his best pieces he said but was happy I made the purchase. When I looked at the bottom, I said "but you didn't sign it." He took out a big magic marker and wrote his name and "cheap ah." It made up both laugh. I still love the pot.
Nelly
#19
Posted 15 April 2013 - 01:43 AM

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