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#1 User is offline   ihallhou Icon

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

Hi Everyone! I'm new to the forum, and I joined because I've been trying to find a good ashy, celadony glaze and I've seen some Phil Rogers pots covered with exactly the glaze I'm looking for, so I wondered if anyone knew about Phil Rogers' trusty pine ash glaze recipe. I actually ordered his book on Amazon, but the wrong book was delivered. Arg! Anyway, I just want that ONE recipe, so I hope somebody is willing to post it here. I can't find it anywhere online.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:23 PM

his ash glazes are just that ... an ash glaze. if you want some decent ones, val cushing has a great book that includes ash glazes that do wonderfully. as for color, cobalt carb 1% copper carb 1%
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:05 PM

I only have his salt glaze book.I looked and it did not have what you are asking for.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

Hey,there;
I just came across the recipe on a hunk of paper while doing my income taxes. I'd rather be on here than unfolding hunks of paper. I have not tested it.
Phil Rogers Ash Glaze
Wood ash 53
Cornwall stone 14.5
Pot Spar 14.5
China clay 6.5
Whiting 4.5
Flint 7

test,test,test.
On the same paper;
Miso Glazed Pork tenderloin
2 tbsp red or yellow miso paste
2 tbsp liquid honey
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp. rice vinegar
remember, test,test,test.
TJR.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:06 PM

View PostTJR, on 18 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Hey,there;
I just came across the recipe on a hunk of paper while doing my income taxes. I'd rather be on here than unfolding hunks of paper. I have not tested it.
Phil Rogers Ash Glaze
Wood ash 53
Cornwall stone 14.5
Pot Spar 14.5
China clay 6.5
Whiting 4.5
Flint 7

test,test,test.
On the same paper;
Miso Glazed Pork tenderloin
2 tbsp red or yellow miso paste
2 tbsp liquid honey
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp. rice vinegar
remember, test,test,test.
TJR.



Some of you may find this paper of interest on wood ash glazes including some ex. of Phil Rogers work.

http://wvuscholar.wv...S8yMTAzNQ==.pdf
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:07 PM

One cannot simply copy an ash glaze. Phil Rogers experimented for years and years to get the results he wanted; so you might have too as well!

Ash glazes can change from tree to tree (literally) and from forest to forest, and especially from species to species!!!
If you wash your ash it will be different, also it depends on how much you wash your ash!

I am gonna pull up some starter recipes from Ben Greens book on ceramic glazes

Ok, pg 44

Recipe A:
20 Clay
40 Spar
40 Ash

Recipe B:
50 Spar or Cornish Stone
50 Ash

Recipe C:
50 Clay
50 Ash

He states "Recipe C is usually applied like a slip to unfired, leatherhard pots. If the preliminary test appears dry, more feldspar should be added; when the results pool at the bottom of the bowl, the recipe requires additional clay. Some improvements in fusibility will sometimes result from the substitution of wood ash for vegetable ash."

He mentions that with ashes, trial and error testing should be done on every new batch of ash because variations in the material are unpreventable.

Cheers!

-Burt
"There is no such thing as cheating in clay; So long as it works"
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:22 PM

View PostAtomicAxe, on 17 March 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

his ash glazes are just that ... an ash glaze. if you want some decent ones, val cushing has a great book that includes ash glazes that do wonderfully. as for color, cobalt carb 1% copper carb 1%


While that may be a great book, Phil has his own ash glaze book that might be a more direct source for info about his glazes. I have Phils book and it is tremendous.

Ben
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostPres, on 18 March 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

View PostTJR, on 18 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Hey,there;
I just came across the recipe on a hunk of paper while doing my income taxes. I'd rather be on here than unfolding hunks of paper. I have not tested it.
Phil Rogers Ash Glaze
Wood ash 53
Cornwall stone 14.5
Pot Spar 14.5
China clay 6.5
Whiting 4.5
Flint 7

test,test,test.
On the same paper;
Miso Glazed Pork tenderloin
2 tbsp red or yellow miso paste
2 tbsp liquid honey
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp. rice vinegar
remember, test,test,test.
TJR.



Some of you may find this paper of interest on wood ash glazes including some ex. of Phil Rogers work.

http://wvuscholar.wv...S8yMTAzNQ==.pdf



Thank you for the Pork recipe. It sounds delish!

Roberta

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostRoberta12, on 18 March 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostPres, on 18 March 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

View PostTJR, on 18 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Hey,there;
I just came across the recipe on a hunk of paper while doing my income taxes. I'd rather be on here than unfolding hunks of paper. I have not tested it.
Phil Rogers Ash Glaze
Wood ash 53
Cornwall stone 14.5
Pot Spar 14.5
China clay 6.5
Whiting 4.5
Flint 7

test,test,test.
On the same paper;
Miso Glazed Pork tenderloin
2 tbsp red or yellow miso paste
2 tbsp liquid honey
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp. rice vinegar
remember, test,test,test.
TJR.



Some of you may find this paper of interest on wood ash glazes including some ex. of Phil Rogers work.

http://wvuscholar.wv...S8yMTAzNQ==.pdf



Thank you for the Pork recipe. It sounds delish!

Roberta

Roberta;
Remember...test first
TJR.
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