Who was the one person who opened the door for you in your art life? How did this person help you? | Q.O.W. 1/24/2103 Potters Council "Question of the Week" for 1/24/2013
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:48 AM
Who was the one person who "opened the door" for you in your art life? How did this person help you?
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Professor of Ceramics; New Hampshire Insitute of Art
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:56 AM
#3
Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:40 AM
There have been so many potters who have so generously shared their knowledge and experience, I could not begin to pick one. I am grateful to all of them.
Dry Ridge Pottery
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:11 PM
Diane Puckett, on 24 January 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:
There have been so many potters who have so generously shared their knowledge and experience, I could not begin to pick one. I am grateful to all of them.
Dear All,
I think the person who gave me a push in art was a guy in the local community. I was in high school and at the point where I had to choose a direction in life (i.e., college or take a year off). He knocked on my parents door and said "Nellie, you can't go into ...., you are an artist in your heart. You must pursue art." I remember thinking is this guy serious or is it a come on?? I mean, he had seen some of the stuff I had done in high school but beyond that he knew little of me.
The long and short of this story was that I did go off to college and then university, university and university and worked at art as a sideline hobby all the way along.
While I remembered this incident when this guy knocked on my door, it seems he did not recall this incident at all. My parents remembered it clearly. They wanted me to be able to feed myself after school not starve. His words were not welcomed by my parents.
Three decades later after some questioning of old friends I found this guy in the city where I now lived. By then, he had changed his name. He also ran one of the most exclusive art galleries in this city.
After my first show at the Gladstone in Toronto, I wrote him and thanked him for keeping me involved in some way in art. I reminded him of his words of encouragement when I was a teenager.
For the life of him, he could not remember me in anyway shape or form, but I remembered him. I remember my parents reaction to him telling me to go to art school. They thought he was crazy.
By the time we met again, he had gone from a long haired hippie eating granola yogi to a rich man living in a big home with a fancy life style. For me, his words of encouragement and confidence in my ability at the time were earth shattering. On the other hand, he totally forgot who I was!!!
Awww.such is life eh! The moral of this story was that I never forgot. It gave me confidence even to do it as I an now--a happy hobby potter.
Nellie
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:20 PM
Jim
"But it does move," said Galileo under his breath.
#6
Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:46 PM
JBaymore, on 24 January 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:
Who was the one person who "opened the door" for you in your art life? How did this person help you?
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I would say Dr. James Cecere. He was the head of the art education department at my second school. He allowed me to transfer in with a 1.9999 repeating average, and a lousy portfolio of flat work. For some reason or other he saw something. Secondly here though he asked what happened to my turn around the year before-get a girlfriend? Is she here? I married her the month after I graduated, so the answer is probably more complicated.
#7
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:07 PM
OffCenter, on 24 January 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:
Jim
Dear Jim,
No really, really...is that a true story??? I love it!
Nancy
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:44 PM
When I was close to graduating from college I wanted to do my graduate work with her. I found out she was at Princeton so I called Princeton and asked about the graduate ceramics program.The operator said that they didn’t have graduate ceramics but she connected me to the ceramics department. I said to the other person on the phone that I was interested in taking graduate courses with Ms Takaesu, the person said, “This is she.” I did not know that it was Ms Takaesu who answered the phone! I felt as if I was talking to a big celebrity. I was like a gushing fan nervous and excited. I said, “Is this really Ms Takaesu??” I was stunned and scared; she hesitantly and cautiously said, “yes”.
I told her that I wanted to do my graduate work with her. I told her about my seeing her on PBS years ago and how it made me want to work with clay. I told her about the three small balls of clay that she dropped in the vessel that helped me to remember her. We talked about my work so far in clay, my life and situation. Unfortunately at the time she was only teaching undergraduates. She asked me a few questions and said that she didn’t think I needed anymore-undergraduate work. And if I wanted to take more undergraduate courses the commute would be hard on me since I didn’t drive, had a husband, a young child and I would have been coming from another state. It was an impossible situation and it would not have worked. But we talked for a while and she encouraged me to continue working with clay. She and I were both sorry that it couldn’t work out. But I had the chance to talk to her and she knew she had a gushing fan.
#9
Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:45 AM
Nelly, on 24 January 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:
OffCenter, on 24 January 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:
Jim
Dear Jim,
No really, really...is that a true story??? I love it!
Nancy
Yes, it is a true story. I don't remember her name but I do remember that I lost interest in her when I found out she was in school to get an education and a degree instead of for the sex, drugs, and avoiding the draft.
Jim
"But it does move," said Galileo under his breath.
#10
Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:52 AM
OffCenter, on 25 January 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:
Nelly, on 24 January 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:
OffCenter, on 24 January 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:
Jim
Dear Jim,
No really, really...is that a true story??? I love it!
Nancy
Yes, it is a true story. I don't remember her name but I do remember that I lost interest in her when I found out she was in school to get an education and a degree instead of for the sex, drugs, and avoiding the draft.
Jim
Jim,
That is too funny. It is true for many people. School can be about those things. I tell my students, you don't have drink everything in your first year--pace yourself. You have four years to party.
For me, with the person who identified me as an "artist" it was him calling me this word that made me think about myself in a different light. I could see two sides of myself. He was right. More than anything that is what I wanted to do but I knew I would never likely have the talent to be big enough to make a living. Thus, even this identification of what little talent I had was an incentive to do it part-time.
The odd thing was that after speaking and interacting with him many years later, I found a man consumed very deeply in the money making aspect of art. For him, it was about making money and self-promotion. While still a nice man, he had somehow got caught up in the whirlwind of name dropping and the prestige of having a well respected gallery. Ceramics, of course, were not part of this gallery. Paintings or what is called "fine art" were the only things he sold.
Great story Jim.
Nellie
#11
Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:13 PM
The watershed moment came a year or so into her class when she offered to conduct a private critique with anyone in the class that was interested. She asked us to bring in any favorite pieces we made and she would discuss them with us. As there were people in the class that had been wheel potters for as much a sixteen years, and I was only 3 or 4 years in, I was hesitant, but went ahead and brought in several of my best liked pots. When it came to me she had me set the pots out on a table and tell me what I liked about each of them. As I explained them, many of which she had never seen, I was surprised about how interested and engaged she was. After going through them all, she asked what I would like to know. I really had no idea, and hesitated. She asked, "Would you like to know what I think of them?" Again I hesistantly said yes. I was shocked as she took each one and discussed the lines and curves, the thickness of the walls and bases, the glazing and decorative touches, gently probing why I liked certain aspects of each pot, and told me how much I had improved since she had first taken over the class. When she told me how much she anticipated seeing how I would interpret each project from our syllabus she would demonstrate I almost lost it. She told me that the work I produced was exciting and that I showed great promise. I was stunned. I thanked her and quickly began packing up my pots while I could still hold it together.
That was when I realized that the skills to throw, handbuild, or any other discipline within clay, can be learned, but it takes more than just the learned skills to become an exceptional potter. One could be exceptional without all of the skills. My instructor pointed out that which I could not see without the help of another. I am now 9 years into pottery, and show my work at several shows per year, with increasing success, as I learn to narrow my focus and continue acquiring and building skills. She no longer makes pottery, but has moved on to being an Emergency Medical Technician, a student in nursing, and paints for her artistic release. But what a gift she gave to me, confidence.
John
#12
Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:14 PM
Since then, my children, who gave me wood carving lessons for Christmas one year, that changed my whole outlook on art. I had never worked in 3-D, but immediately knew that working with my hands was what I was born to do. I apprenticed with Clay Johnston for three years until the family moved to Boise. There, I took many classes in sculpture with Al Kober, and finally moved on to ceramics with John Takehara.
I have been fortunate in the teachers that have helped shape me into the artist I am today, and I'm grateful to each of them for sharing their knowledge and expertise. I hope to continue learning from anyone willing to share.
Shirley

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