Form is more important to me than the decorative effects. I LOVE my unglazed, bisqued, smooth white earthenware, and am exploring subtle oxide additions for some pieces. My best pieces recently, were clear glazed on the inside and unglazed on the outside - no 'pinking' on these pieces, but 2 that were glazed inside and out now have long cracks in the glaze. It's so frustrating when so much work has gone into the pieces - throwing, carving, incising, building on etc. then a successful bisque, all to be lost in the glaze firing! ANY ADVICE/SUGGESTIONS would be most welcome.
Glaze fit Glaze cracking
#1
Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:04 PM
Form is more important to me than the decorative effects. I LOVE my unglazed, bisqued, smooth white earthenware, and am exploring subtle oxide additions for some pieces. My best pieces recently, were clear glazed on the inside and unglazed on the outside - no 'pinking' on these pieces, but 2 that were glazed inside and out now have long cracks in the glaze. It's so frustrating when so much work has gone into the pieces - throwing, carving, incising, building on etc. then a successful bisque, all to be lost in the glaze firing! ANY ADVICE/SUGGESTIONS would be most welcome.
#2
Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:38 PM
Maybe try bisque firing higher still at 03 or 02. And slow cool. Don't open the kiln until it is at room temperature. Where are you located...I don't think you are in the US. since you describe your kiln size in liters. Possibly others on this forum know of more compatible clay and glaze closer to where you are located.
Marcia
#3
Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:05 PM
Marcia Selsor, on 21 December 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:
Maybe try bisque firing higher still at 03 or 02. And slow cool. Don't open the kiln until it is at room temperature. Where are you located...I don't think you are in the US. since you describe your kiln size in liters. Possibly others on this forum know of more compatible clay and glaze closer to where you are located.
Marcia
#4
Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:15 PM
As generally i only want a thin glaze then bisquing higher would help with that I believe, by making the clay less porous?
I am in the UK - well spotted! It always surprises me that the US hasn't ever gone metric - I thought we were the dinosaurs! I have just joined a local Potter's Group, so I will be able to pick other members' brains there too, in the new year.
In the meantime I'll keep my fingers crossed until I open the latest glaze firing, in the morning.
#5
Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:44 PM
Celia UK, on 21 December 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:
Form is more important to me than the decorative effects. I LOVE my unglazed, bisqued, smooth white earthenware, and am exploring subtle oxide additions for some pieces. My best pieces recently, were clear glazed on the inside and unglazed on the outside - no 'pinking' on these pieces, but 2 that were glazed inside and out now have long cracks in the glaze. It's so frustrating when so much work has gone into the pieces - throwing, carving, incising, building on etc. then a successful bisque, all to be lost in the glaze firing! ANY ADVICE/SUGGESTIONS would be most welcome.
I know it may seem very straight forward, but since you say you mix your glazes from powder, are you using the same Kaolin (clay component) that your clay body is made from? Often times there are very subtle differences in the clay that is pulled from one location and the clay from another location that can actually affect fit. I've always made sure that even if a glaze recipe calls for a different kaolin to still use the same kaolin that is in my clay for fit issues. So far, cross my fingers, I have not had any colorant issues from doing so.
I also have had issues with bubbles & crazing in my clear glazes and have found a wonderful resource in The Potter's Dictionary by Frank and Janet Hamer. It is a comprehensive resource for almost all things clay. Including what goes wrong, and possible ways to fix it. I found that adding a bit of frit which contains borax can really help improve the clarity and fit of the glaze. The frit I used is ferro frit 3195, a high calcium borate frit from my local supplier, in a concentration of 2-5% in the glaze.
Obviously, more testing will need to be involved to determine what will work with your specific resources and environment. I use a numbering system on my test tiles and use that to test one variable at a time (the only thing being hard to test specifically is the firing schedule/temp). That way I can cover a bunch of different variables in one kiln firing and adjust based on the out come.
I hope this helps as one emerging artist to another.
Shannon EW Schanus
#6
Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:16 PM
SEWSart, on 21 December 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:
Celia UK, on 21 December 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:
Form is more important to me than the decorative effects. I LOVE my unglazed, bisqued, smooth white earthenware, and am exploring subtle oxide additions for some pieces. My best pieces recently, were clear glazed on the inside and unglazed on the outside - no 'pinking' on these pieces, but 2 that were glazed inside and out now have long cracks in the glaze. It's so frustrating when so much work has gone into the pieces - throwing, carving, incising, building on etc. then a successful bisque, all to be lost in the glaze firing! ANY ADVICE/SUGGESTIONS would be most welcome.
I know it may seem very straight forward, but since you say you mix your glazes from powder, are you using the same Kaolin (clay component) that your clay body is made from? Often times there are very subtle differences in the clay that is pulled from one location and the clay from another location that can actually affect fit. I've always made sure that even if a glaze recipe calls for a different kaolin to still use the same kaolin that is in my clay for fit issues. So far, cross my fingers, I have not had any colorant issues from doing so.
I also have had issues with bubbles & crazing in my clear glazes and have found a wonderful resource in The Potter's Dictionary by Frank and Janet Hamer. It is a comprehensive resource for almost all things clay. Including what goes wrong, and possible ways to fix it. I found that adding a bit of frit which contains borax can really help improve the clarity and fit of the glaze. The frit I used is ferro frit 3195, a high calcium borate frit from my local supplier, in a concentration of 2-5% in the glaze.
Obviously, more testing will need to be involved to determine what will work with your specific resources and environment. I use a numbering system on my test tiles and use that to test one variable at a time (the only thing being hard to test specifically is the firing schedule/temp). That way I can cover a bunch of different variables in one kiln firing and adjust based on the out come.
I hope this helps as one emerging artist to another.
Shannon EW Schanus
#7
Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:27 PM
Latest firing was more successful. A few more things to learn from it - mostly in respect of my glazing technique. I need to improve my dipping skills and use of glaze tongs. Also as much of my work has holes pierced or incised there has to be a good way of getting an even glaze - with dipping, the glaze pours through the holes and it's hard not to get drips and runs. Do you think thinning the glaze somewhat would help? Alternatively, as I wondered in my previous post, perhaps bisquing at a higher temperature, making the clay less porous, would help. Oh the joys and frustrations.......
Celia
#8
Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:39 PM
Celia UK, on 22 December 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:
Latest firing was more successful. A few more things to learn from it - mostly in respect of my glazing technique. I need to improve my dipping skills and use of glaze tongs. Also as much of my work has holes pierced or incised there has to be a good way of getting an even glaze - with dipping, the glaze pours through the holes and it's hard not to get drips and runs. Do you think thinning the glaze somewhat would help? Alternatively, as I wondered in my previous post, perhaps bisquing at a higher temperature, making the clay less porous, would help. Oh the joys and frustrations.......
Celia
Ah yes, that may be a bit trickier to control since you would not be able to isolate a single component of the prepared powder, but it couldn't hurt to do a few 100gram test batches with different concentrations (say .5%, 1%, and 3%) of a frit that contains borate added to your glaze powder. It is a good thing that you get the glaze in powdered form, because if it were premixed with water then it would be much harder to consistently add the same amount of frit to each glaze batch (if the testing turns out).
I have definitely found that crazing will happen when there is too thick of a glaze application. Using just clear glaze really doesn't take much to make a nice glossy seal. If you take a credit card and scrape a line in the glaze you should see that the thickness on the piece is about the width of credit card or even a touch less (you can then rub your finger back over the scrape to fill the glaze back in). Also, if you thin it down it would definitely help glazing the piercings. (I too am very much into pierced designs) I find if the hole has filled in as I pull the piece up from the dip, if I blow gently into the opening it will break the surface tension and possibly clear it. Otherwise if it stays closed, depending on the shape, i can use a small drill bit to hand "drill" the hole out without completely chipping away the dried glaze. You can take your finger and gently rub over the runs to "sand" them away so to speak, or you can use actual sand paper to gently grind them down. Just make sure to try to keep the dust down (wear a mask).
I was taught that when you stick your hand in the glaze and pull it out there should only be a thin layer still stuck to your fingers, if it's thick and sticks like gravy to the back of a spoon it's too thick. There is also a way to make a density meter with a block of wood and a weight so that you know the glaze is the same thickness every time you make it.
Basically you attach the weight to the end of the stick and place it in a bucket of plain water so that part of the stick is floating above the surface. Mark where the water level is on the stick.
Next, place it in the bucket of well mixed glaze that you know has been combined with the right amount of water (you've tested how well it covers the bisque and possibly fired to see if it crazes) and mark where the glaze level falls on the stick (it should be lower than the water mark).
Then, the next time you mix that glaze you can drop the stick in the bucket in between intervals of adding water to the powder until the stick comes to rest at the glaze level line. You should end up having the same density glaze every time. As with nearly everything, this was not my original idea. I believe I got it out of a Ceramics Monthly magazine actually.
As far as firing the bisque to a higher temp then glaze firing, I've honestly never done so since I fire to cone 9/10 and the clay would never accept the glaze at that point since it would be completely vitrified. But I am curious if it helps with crazing at lower temps since it is much more economically feasible to fire lower.
Best
Shannon
#9
Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:11 PM
If a glaze crazes when thick, then it does not fit the body and will eventually exhibit delayed crazing in use even in the thin areas. You won;t see it (unless you do testing of the fired wares) but the customers/end users will.
The way to fix crazing is normally to recalculate (molecular glaze calc) the COE of the glaze to reduce the COE number. It usually is ratehr simple... one of the easier things to correct in many cases. But if it is a pre-manufactured glaze,...... you can't do that. The secondary method to fix crazing to alter the clay BODY recipe to cause it to have a higher COE. For earthenware, this is often done by adding in some ground cristabolite. Cristabolite has a high COE in the lower temperature ranges and dramatically increases the COE of a body that contains much of it (it causes significant dunting issues for stoneware potters firing long-cylce wood kilns).
If you can't alter the body either...... well you are going to have to do a lit of experimenting.
The standard trick for decreasing crazing is to add increments of SiO2 into the glaze melt until you hit the correct COE numbers. IN your case adding in very small additions of SiO2 by adding measured amounts of flint (quartz) to the glaze might do the trick. However as the silica content (SiO2) comes up... so does the melting popint of the glaze. SO hopefully you can add enough to fix the crazing without changing the appearance of the glaze.
To balance the effect of increasing silica on the cone end point, you can also add in a source of boric oxide. Boric oxide (B2O3) is a glass former like silica.... but has a much lower melting point. So you might be able to bring in a little boron to stave off the temperature raising impacts of the flint. There is no non-soluble raw materil that supplies ONLY boron in the melt... so this will start getting complicated. Boron also adds some elasticity to the boro-silicate glass that forms.... and that can sometimes help with the crazing tendencies also.
This will be very empirical testing and given your constraints a bit of a "shot in the dark" .... so prepare for a bunch of tests.
best,
.....................john
Immediate Past President; Potters Council
Professor of Ceramics; New Hampshire Insitute of Art
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
#10
Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:42 AM
JBaymore, on 22 December 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:
If a glaze crazes when thick, then it does not fit the body and will eventually exhibit delayed crazing in use even in the thin areas. You won;t see it (unless you do testing of the fired wares) but the customers/end users will.
The way to fix crazing is normally to recalculate (molecular glaze calc) the COE of the glaze to reduce the COE number. It usually is ratehr simple... one of the easier things to correct in many cases. But if it is a pre-manufactured glaze,...... you can't do that. The secondary method to fix crazing to alter the clay BODY recipe to cause it to have a higher COE. For earthenware, this is often done by adding in some ground cristabolite. Cristabolite has a high COE in the lower temperature ranges and dramatically increases the COE of a body that contains much of it (it causes significant dunting issues for stoneware potters firing long-cylce wood kilns).
If you can't alter the body either...... well you are going to have to do a lit of experimenting.
The standard trick for decreasing crazing is to add increments of SiO2 into the glaze melt until you hit the correct COE numbers. IN your case adding in very small additions of SiO2 by adding measured amounts of flint (quartz) to the glaze might do the trick. However as the silica content (SiO2) comes up... so does the melting popint of the glaze. SO hopefully you can add enough to fix the crazing without changing the appearance of the glaze.
To balance the effect of increasing silica on the cone end point, you can also add in a source of boric oxide. Boric oxide (B2O3) is a glass former like silica.... but has a much lower melting point. So you might be able to bring in a little boron to stave off the temperature raising impacts of the flint. There is no non-soluble raw materil that supplies ONLY boron in the melt... so this will start getting complicated. Boron also adds some elasticity to the boro-silicate glass that forms.... and that can sometimes help with the crazing tendencies also.
This will be very empirical testing and given your constraints a bit of a "shot in the dark" .... so prepare for a bunch of tests.
best,
.....................john
Thanks John - a very clear explanation and some specific things or me to work on. I can see some disciplined testing coming on in the New Year to reduce all the guesswork. The reason I'm going to these lengths, is so as not to waste two 5kg bags of glaze powder that I found at the back of the art store at the school where I used to be the headteacher (recently retired hence new interest in ceramics). I could just dump them and start over, but that seems wasteful & I could have the same problems with another glaze. Anyhow, it's a good exercise to go through and will be increasing my knowledge along the way. I need to be philosophical about ending up with unsuccessful test pieces and using up my clay stock, but I can also look on it as throwing practice, if I use small bowls rather than test tiles! I SHOULD be wrapping Xmas presents and doing the last food shop today, but I'm going to source the boric oxide and SiO2 (need to look this up!) online first!
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply - what a great way to get help, I love it!
Hope you have an enjoyable Christmastime.
Celia
#11
Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:43 AM
SEWSart, on 22 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:
Celia UK, on 22 December 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:
Latest firing was more successful. A few more things to learn from it - mostly in respect of my glazing technique. I need to improve my dipping skills and use of glaze tongs. Also as much of my work has holes pierced or incised there has to be a good way of getting an even glaze - with dipping, the glaze pours through the holes and it's hard not to get drips and runs. Do you think thinning the glaze somewhat would help? Alternatively, as I wondered in my previous post, perhaps bisquing at a higher temperature, making the clay less porous, would help. Oh the joys and frustrations.......
Celia
Ah yes, that may be a bit trickier to control since you would not be able to isolate a single component of the prepared powder, but it couldn't hurt to do a few 100gram test batches with different concentrations (say .5%, 1%, and 3%) of a frit that contains borate added to your glaze powder. It is a good thing that you get the glaze in powdered form, because if it were premixed with water then it would be much harder to consistently add the same amount of frit to each glaze batch (if the testing turns out).
I have definitely found that crazing will happen when there is too thick of a glaze application. Using just clear glaze really doesn't take much to make a nice glossy seal. If you take a credit card and scrape a line in the glaze you should see that the thickness on the piece is about the width of credit card or even a touch less (you can then rub your finger back over the scrape to fill the glaze back in). Also, if you thin it down it would definitely help glazing the piercings. (I too am very much into pierced designs) I find if the hole has filled in as I pull the piece up from the dip, if I blow gently into the opening it will break the surface tension and possibly clear it. Otherwise if it stays closed, depending on the shape, i can use a small drill bit to hand "drill" the hole out without completely chipping away the dried glaze. You can take your finger and gently rub over the runs to "sand" them away so to speak, or you can use actual sand paper to gently grind them down. Just make sure to try to keep the dust down (wear a mask).
I was taught that when you stick your hand in the glaze and pull it out there should only be a thin layer still stuck to your fingers, if it's thick and sticks like gravy to the back of a spoon it's too thick. There is also a way to make a density meter with a block of wood and a weight so that you know the glaze is the same thickness every time you make it.
Basically you attach the weight to the end of the stick and place it in a bucket of plain water so that part of the stick is floating above the surface. Mark where the water level is on the stick.
Next, place it in the bucket of well mixed glaze that you know has been combined with the right amount of water (you've tested how well it covers the bisque and possibly fired to see if it crazes) and mark where the glaze level falls on the stick (it should be lower than the water mark).
Then, the next time you mix that glaze you can drop the stick in the bucket in between intervals of adding water to the powder until the stick comes to rest at the glaze level line. You should end up having the same density glaze every time. As with nearly everything, this was not my original idea. I believe I got it out of a Ceramics Monthly magazine actually.
As far as firing the bisque to a higher temp then glaze firing, I've honestly never done so since I fire to cone 9/10 and the clay would never accept the glaze at that point since it would be completely vitrified. But I am curious if it helps with crazing at lower temps since it is much more economically feasible to fire lower.
Best
Shannon
#12
Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:55 AM
Celia UK, on 23 December 2012 - 04:43 AM, said:
SEWSart, on 22 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:
Celia UK, on 22 December 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:
Latest firing was more successful. A few more things to learn from it - mostly in respect of my glazing technique. I need to improve my dipping skills and use of glaze tongs. Also as much of my work has holes pierced or incised there has to be a good way of getting an even glaze - with dipping, the glaze pours through the holes and it's hard not to get drips and runs. Do you think thinning the glaze somewhat would help? Alternatively, as I wondered in my previous post, perhaps bisquing at a higher temperature, making the clay less porous, would help. Oh the joys and frustrations.......
Celia
Ah yes, that may be a bit trickier to control since you would not be able to isolate a single component of the prepared powder, but it couldn't hurt to do a few 100gram test batches with different concentrations (say .5%, 1%, and 3%) of a frit that contains borate added to your glaze powder. It is a good thing that you get the glaze in powdered form, because if it were premixed with water then it would be much harder to consistently add the same amount of frit to each glaze batch (if the testing turns out).
I have definitely found that crazing will happen when there is too thick of a glaze application. Using just clear glaze really doesn't take much to make a nice glossy seal. If you take a credit card and scrape a line in the glaze you should see that the thickness on the piece is about the width of credit card or even a touch less (you can then rub your finger back over the scrape to fill the glaze back in). Also, if you thin it down it would definitely help glazing the piercings. (I too am very much into pierced designs) I find if the hole has filled in as I pull the piece up from the dip, if I blow gently into the opening it will break the surface tension and possibly clear it. Otherwise if it stays closed, depending on the shape, i can use a small drill bit to hand "drill" the hole out without completely chipping away the dried glaze. You can take your finger and gently rub over the runs to "sand" them away so to speak, or you can use actual sand paper to gently grind them down. Just make sure to try to keep the dust down (wear a mask).
I was taught that when you stick your hand in the glaze and pull it out there should only be a thin layer still stuck to your fingers, if it's thick and sticks like gravy to the back of a spoon it's too thick. There is also a way to make a density meter with a block of wood and a weight so that you know the glaze is the same thickness every time you make it.
Basically you attach the weight to the end of the stick and place it in a bucket of plain water so that part of the stick is floating above the surface. Mark where the water level is on the stick.
Next, place it in the bucket of well mixed glaze that you know has been combined with the right amount of water (you've tested how well it covers the bisque and possibly fired to see if it crazes) and mark where the glaze level falls on the stick (it should be lower than the water mark).
Then, the next time you mix that glaze you can drop the stick in the bucket in between intervals of adding water to the powder until the stick comes to rest at the glaze level line. You should end up having the same density glaze every time. As with nearly everything, this was not my original idea. I believe I got it out of a Ceramics Monthly magazine actually.
As far as firing the bisque to a higher temp then glaze firing, I've honestly never done so since I fire to cone 9/10 and the clay would never accept the glaze at that point since it would be completely vitrified. But I am curious if it helps with crazing at lower temps since it is much more economically feasible to fire lower.
Best
Shannon
Hi Shannon - thanks again! I've also read about dipping your hand in to test the glaze thickness, but I've found ideas of 'thin cream, thick cream, gravy, breaking over knuckles' etc a bit on the subjective side and dependent on my cookery knowledge / skills ! I did look at a hydrometer in the homeware store recently - having read that this was the 'proper' way to measure viscosity. I resisted buying one, but as it was less than £5 I may invest - though your idea sounds very clever too! Whatever, I need to identify the ideal measure first!!! Testing, testing....
Have a wonderful Christmastime.
Celia
#13
Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:25 AM
Would the contents of the glaze settle out overtime? Would you then need to either remix the powder to use a portion of it or would it be best to make up the glaze with the whole bag at once?
Just curious and not meant to hijack the topic.
Susan
#14
Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:09 PM
smastca, on 24 December 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:
Would the contents of the glaze settle out overtime? Would you then need to either remix the powder to use a portion of it or would it be best to make up the glaze with the whole bag at once?
Just curious and not meant to hijack the topic.
Susan
In a dry state, the contents of the glaze would not separate. Commercial manufacturers mix dry glazes thoroughly so if someone buys, for example, 10 lbs but chooses to mix it 5 lbs at a time, there is no difference in color, etc. When you mix the dry glaze, you will add water and then sieve the mixture . . . sieving further ensures the glazes materials are mixed thoroughly. If a wet glaze mixture sets for a period of time, you may want to re-sieve it to make sure things are thoroughly mixed and blended. A wet mixture could settle.

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