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#1 User is offline   Alteredclay Icon

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:27 AM

You can tell I'm learning. Yes, I let it get bone dry and now is there any way I can 'reconstitute' this little mug to accept a handle? I know some will say 'throw another one' --you need to practice/ ha. That's true but thought I would ask you guys if there any way I can save this .
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:16 AM

From what I understand mixing up a little paper clay and using it like glue will work. I just bought some paper clay to work with so I am a newbie when it comes to paper clay. Maybe a paper clay expert like Chris will help. Denice
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

If this mug means the world to you, then try this.
Put the mug on an out of the way surface, surround it with a wet towel ( without the towel touching it anywhere ) then cover with plastic and let it hydrate slowly, checking daily.
When it is back to a reasonable degree of hydration throughout you will have a better chance of the handle sticking ... Use a slurry of that clay body. Make sure the handle you are attaching is close to the mug in wetness.

The reason I don't recommend just giving it a shot with paper clay right now is because it is a mug ... and who needs the handle detaching some day with hot coffee in it?
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:08 AM

View PostChris Campbell, on 26 November 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

The reason I don't recommend just giving it a shot with paper clay right now is because it is a mug ... and who needs the handle detaching some day with hot coffee in it?


.....while you are holding the mug over your 2 year old! :blink:src="http://ceramicartsdaily.org/community/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif">

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

You can re-moisten the mug as Chris suggests, or actually wring out the towel or rag and let it touch but without dripping water and wrap in plastic.You may need to remoisten the towel or rag daily. Also pull the handle and let it set up a bit.
Mix some paperclay in a blender using toilet paper, dried powder of your clay body, some water, vinegar and a dash of sodium silicate a drop or 2 only.
Mix to a peanut butter thickness and slightly wetter. Do this by adding the powdered clay as you are blending. you need about 15% volume of paper to clay.
Let the toilet paper soak over night. Squeeze the water out of it and select an estimated amount you need.
When the mug and the handle are close to the same moisture content, put them together with the paper clay mix..

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:58 PM

View PostMarcia Selsor, on 26 November 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

You can re-moisten the mug as Chris suggests, or actually wring out the towel or rag and let it touch but without dripping water and wrap in plastic.You may need to remoisten the towel or rag daily. Also pull the handle and let it set up a bit.
Mix some paperclay in a blender using toilet paper, dried powder of your clay body, some water, vinegar and a dash of sodium silicate a drop or 2 only.
Mix to a peanut butter thickness and slightly wetter. Do this by adding the powdered clay as you are blending. you need about 15% volume of paper to clay.
Let the toilet paper soak over night. Squeeze the water out of it and select an estimated amount you need.
When the mug and the handle are close to the same moisture content, put them together with the paper clay mix..

Marcia


You guys are just great. This mug really is a sweet little guy:). He's light weight, even walls = a big accomplishment for me. I have learned this: Don't let things get bone dry!! But, I'm tired of recycling and wedging all my redos. ha. Now, I can learn what it takes to rehydrate something and if it's worth the extra time. I will start the process and will end up victorious in my endeavor. This new medium is becoming addictive--scary.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

If it is a thin cup then be very careful during hydration and watch it daily ... thin will be less forgiving than thick.
AND ... before you start attaching the handle try to judge whether or not the process might wreck what could be a friendly water glass.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

A thin mug doesn't have to have a handle nor does it have to be a mug. A very adorable small vase with a sweet little bouquet of one or two flowers such as peonies can make your "mug" have a prominent place where otherwise it would be in the dishwasher, or in a cabinet.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

View PostLucille Oka, on 26 November 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

A thin mug doesn't have to have a handle nor does it have to be a mug. A very adorable small vase with a sweet little bouquet of one or two flowers such as peonies can make your "mug" have a prominent place where otherwise it would be in the dishwasher, or in a cabinet.

Good points and suggestions
I now have a few other possible uses for this piece
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

Throw a new one. It'll be faster and easier than rehydrating and all that.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

View Postneilestrick, on 27 November 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

Throw a new one. It'll be faster and easier than rehydrating and all that.


Thanks Neil, more time at the wheel is definitely my plan
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 08:16 AM

View PostAlteredclay, on 26 November 2012 - 06:27 AM, said:

You can tell I'm learning. Yes, I let it get bone dry and now is there any way I can 'reconstitute' this little mug to accept a handle? I know some will say 'throw another one' --you need to practice/ ha. That's true but thought I would ask you guys if there any way I can save this .
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Sorry I am a bit late in replying. All the advice so far is great. For me though, I actually have dipped a dry pot in water. Yes, submerged. I also use a spray bottle of water to accomplish the same thing. It is amazing just what a vessel can withstand, if it has been well-thrown. I can't claim 100% success, but still, I have completely reconstituted dry pieces several times by merely wetting them, waiting, and rewetting. Sometimes it takes three or four sprays.

A further method is to use a commercial product called "Klay Klutch." (Not sure of the spelling.) If the cup is bone dry, you'll have to make your handle and let it dry out completely, too. Then using the clay clutch product on both pieces, simply press them together. I think it is slip with either acrylic emulsion or some other sticky medium. After bisquing, you're as good as new.

Personally, I vote for re-throwing a new cup. At your stage of the game, the more experience you can get, the better. Good luck!
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