Charging for use of one's home studio
Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:24 PM
Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:13 PM
Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:49 AM
Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:02 AM
Mossy Rock Creations
High Point, NC
Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:32 AM
Thank you all for your input. I too am looking foward to being on my own after sharing classes with lots of people. I do know someone who would like to fire her stuff somewhere other than the classroom so was considering just charging for firing and glazing. I like her and know there wouldn't be any issues - the nice thing about having your own space - can control who you invite in. I will certainly think about all you have said.
Thank you very much.
Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:12 AM
Yes, I am very protective of my space.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:33 AM
If there are alternative facilities near you, I would definitely point people in that direction and keep your space for you.
Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:27 AM
And there are both. I have 2 people that will NEVER come again over the 4 years that I have been doing this, and I have many students that I truly enjoy and see for other social reasons, but I make it very clear that when they are in my studio, I am in charge of what goes on and it is a teaching -learning situation, not a group social hour. Work well for me and most of them. But am am always glad when the days for lessons are done, and the studio is once again all mine.
Something I learned from another life, always charge enough that it makes it worth it when they piss you off, cause something about the situation WILL piss you off at some point. or at the least, really inconvience you.
As to chaarging to use the studio, the closest I have come to that is offering a pre determined open studio group of days over a months time that the more experienced studion can choose to do. Then I put away things I don't want them in, limit them to certain glazes and am clear about what is offered and what is not. And I am in there working or doing mantenance when they are there. No one is ever in my studio when I am not.
I do have potter friends that have equal skills to mine that I trade with, they use my slab roller and bring me some glaze that I'm short on, that sort of thing. But it's not 'hiring out the equipment'. Not sure I would do that.
Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:34 AM
People who don't have their own equipment don't realize how much expense is involved in maintaining it -- not to mention the inevitable glaze drips etc. that can impact on the expense of keeping things going. I've had to replace shelves after (my own) accidents -- I wouldn't want to do that after a friend's accident! Especially considering how inconvenient my pottery supply store is -- a 40 minute drive away.
I've encouraged my friend to do what I did -- look for a good used kiln on Craigslist. Having a kiln installed, after a lot of research, isn't such a big deal. And if your friend is a beginner, like I am, a used kiln (as long as you understand how it functions, have the capacity in your electrical system and are prepared to make repairs) is the best way to go at first. I didn't want to invest in a new kiln until I was sure this was going to be a long term affair. I'm now researching my next kiln after a couple years getting to know my second hand kiln. I know better now what I'd like in a new one. It's been a good experience so far!
Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:36 PM
Depreciation on equipment is something also often overlooked by potters in pricing their OWN work let alone renting out use of their equipment.
That nice gas kiln costs you something for each firing well BEYOND the cost of gas, replacement of stuff like posts and shelves, and so on. It is that fact that the kiln has a FINITE number of firings in it. At some point you will have to replace it.... and not at the cost which you BOUGHT it at (or built it at), but at he NEW cost that it will require to replace it. Usually WAY higher than the original cost.
This figure should be carefully estimated and an account set up into which money is regularly deposited out of sales proceeds so that when the time arrives ..... and it will....... you HAVE the money to simply replace the unit, not be con fronted with a huge issue when you discover that you need to spend $10,000 on a new kiln.
Ditto for electric kilns.
When someone who wants to "just use your kiln" gets presented with the real costs of doing so, including factors for energy use, shelf and post wear and tear, and actual kiln depreciation/replacement costs per firing... they often lose interest quickly.
From working with dear friends in Japan who wood fire amazingly HUGE volumes of work in large wood kilns, I know that a wood kiln built out of really good quality PCE 32-34 hardbrick will need to be seriously repaired of fully replaced after about 150 cone 10-12 firings due to the deter ioration of the bricks. If a big wood kiln (like mine) costs about $40,000 to replace, (exclusive of the labor to do so) just to buy the refractories necessary is about $40,000/150 = $267.00 per firing. Add in the labor factor for the rebuilding (and not making any pots) and that figure per firing is WAY higher.... probably about $1000 per firing, at least. (More likely.) This has nothing to do with the labor coast to do tha actual firing of the kiln nor the cost of wood fuel not wear and tear on shelves and posts and such.
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