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#21
Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:33 PM
Hi Fued
I should of mentioned the texture stamped ones that I fire on prongs are earthenware- oops
But the porcelain, that I wet sand have never had complaints re staining etc you mentioned. The clay is vitrified and easily washed in soapy water if needed.
I put finished bracelets and rings in a bucket of water and use fine grade wet/dry sand paper that is used in the auto motive industry.
Then actually sand them under water- this guarantees no scratches and there is no dust at all. It is time consuming if there are a lot to do.
But if I was to cost out what it takes to do each one its minimal and wouldnt affect sell price that much. Its sort of a brainless job that can be done in front of the tv.
good luck, they are very popular at the moment.
Lyn
I should of mentioned the texture stamped ones that I fire on prongs are earthenware- oops
But the porcelain, that I wet sand have never had complaints re staining etc you mentioned. The clay is vitrified and easily washed in soapy water if needed.
I put finished bracelets and rings in a bucket of water and use fine grade wet/dry sand paper that is used in the auto motive industry.
Then actually sand them under water- this guarantees no scratches and there is no dust at all. It is time consuming if there are a lot to do.
But if I was to cost out what it takes to do each one its minimal and wouldnt affect sell price that much. Its sort of a brainless job that can be done in front of the tv.
good luck, they are very popular at the moment.
Lyn
#22
Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:39 AM
Fuad, on 14 May 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:
Hey everyone - long time lurker, first time poster.
Such a wealth of knowledge on these forums that whenever I google any ceramic/glaze questions I have always been directed here. I look forward to learning and sharing ideas with all of you.
I am part of a team that creates porcelain art jewelry. We work with Cone 6 Porcelain combined with several types of glazing and over glaze techniques and have been having some good success in the last few years.
So here are my questions:
1. Has anyone made a solid porcelain or ceramic bangle with success? I know they exist because I have seen them online
I guess I should also be more clear that I can make the actual bangle, but I cannot figure out a way to glaze the entire piece. Pin supports would leave marks in the glaze and possibly scratch clothing. I can string it along some nichrome wire, but I would still have to leave a portion unglazed for the wire to rest on.
Really stuck on this one...
2. Is there a way to fire CZ's, gemstones into porcelain. I like the idea of melted gemstones (if that happens to them).
Thanks!
Such a wealth of knowledge on these forums that whenever I google any ceramic/glaze questions I have always been directed here. I look forward to learning and sharing ideas with all of you.
I am part of a team that creates porcelain art jewelry. We work with Cone 6 Porcelain combined with several types of glazing and over glaze techniques and have been having some good success in the last few years.
So here are my questions:
1. Has anyone made a solid porcelain or ceramic bangle with success? I know they exist because I have seen them online
I guess I should also be more clear that I can make the actual bangle, but I cannot figure out a way to glaze the entire piece. Pin supports would leave marks in the glaze and possibly scratch clothing. I can string it along some nichrome wire, but I would still have to leave a portion unglazed for the wire to rest on.
Really stuck on this one...
2. Is there a way to fire CZ's, gemstones into porcelain. I like the idea of melted gemstones (if that happens to them).
Thanks!
#23
Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:48 AM
I know that you probably want to glaze them, but if you can find a style that you like to make that doesn't require glazing, the bangles will be less llikely to break. As with wind chimes banging together, it's the glaze that helps them break. I took a jewlery workshop with Luca Tripaldi from Italy. He uses ^10 procelain and colors the clay (also some transfers). After firing he uses various grades of wet sand paper to finish them to s smooth surface. This would work at ^6 too. I haven't seen any bangles of his but I'm sure the rings get banged a bit.
#24
Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:29 AM
Fuad, on 20 May 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:
hey matt,
i depends on the finished we are going for. requires a bit of forethought and planning.
since it's jewelry, we don't worry so much with glaze fit because no one is eating off of it - lol.
We sometimes do a low fire bisque and then use high fire glazes on them (if that's the look we want)
And sometimes we do a high fire bisque with the high fire glaze and the piece is ready of overglaze work.
Sometimes we do a high fire bisque and then apply low fire glazes. I find clear (gloss and matte/satin) non crackle glazes get crackle textures which i bring out with ink sometimes. some other glazes (ex amaco's luster glazes) never have any problems with cracks.
But I have rarely had problems with shrinkage, warping during the firing process
i depends on the finished we are going for. requires a bit of forethought and planning.
since it's jewelry, we don't worry so much with glaze fit because no one is eating off of it - lol.
We sometimes do a low fire bisque and then use high fire glazes on them (if that's the look we want)
And sometimes we do a high fire bisque with the high fire glaze and the piece is ready of overglaze work.
Sometimes we do a high fire bisque and then apply low fire glazes. I find clear (gloss and matte/satin) non crackle glazes get crackle textures which i bring out with ink sometimes. some other glazes (ex amaco's luster glazes) never have any problems with cracks.
But I have rarely had problems with shrinkage, warping during the firing process
Matt Oz, on 20 May 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:
With porcelain, has anyone tried a high fire bisque, than lower fire glaze. That way you wouldn’t have to worry about shrinkage, and have more support options for the glaze fire.
I don't know about glaze fit though.
I don't know about glaze fit though.
I see you have already made pieces every which way.
Thanks for the info.
#25
Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:52 AM
Fuad, on 14 May 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:
Hey everyone - long time lurker, first time poster.
Such a wealth of knowledge on these forums that whenever I google any ceramic/glaze questions I have always been directed here. I look forward to learning and sharing ideas with all of you.
I am part of a team that creates porcelain art jewelry. We work with Cone 6 Porcelain combined with several types of glazing and over glaze techniques and have been having some good success in the last few years.
So here are my questions:
1. Has anyone made a solid porcelain or ceramic bangle with success? I know they exist because I have seen them online
I guess I should also be more clear that I can make the actual bangle, but I cannot figure out a way to glaze the entire piece. Pin supports would leave marks in the glaze and possibly scratch clothing. I can string it along some nichrome wire, but I would still have to leave a portion unglazed for the wire to rest on.
Really stuck on this one...
2. Is there a way to fire CZ's, gemstones into porcelain. I like the idea of melted gemstones (if that happens to them).
Thanks!
Such a wealth of knowledge on these forums that whenever I google any ceramic/glaze questions I have always been directed here. I look forward to learning and sharing ideas with all of you.
I am part of a team that creates porcelain art jewelry. We work with Cone 6 Porcelain combined with several types of glazing and over glaze techniques and have been having some good success in the last few years.
So here are my questions:
1. Has anyone made a solid porcelain or ceramic bangle with success? I know they exist because I have seen them online
I guess I should also be more clear that I can make the actual bangle, but I cannot figure out a way to glaze the entire piece. Pin supports would leave marks in the glaze and possibly scratch clothing. I can string it along some nichrome wire, but I would still have to leave a portion unglazed for the wire to rest on.
Really stuck on this one...
2. Is there a way to fire CZ's, gemstones into porcelain. I like the idea of melted gemstones (if that happens to them).
Thanks!
actually people make all kind of accessories from ceramic or bisque in Turkey something same as my photo as below
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#27
Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:04 PM
I have made one or two bangles from clay but I found them quite unsatisfactory for wear and selling them was almost impossible. I have combined metalmsithed bangles and clay and epoxy for a more durable type of outcome.
I use heavy kanthol wire to suspend heavier porcelain jewelry from the bead rods if i want to glaze and entire piece You will need to use two rods to suspend a bangle and then grind down the resultant small marks the wire leaves on the underside of the piece with a dremel or Foredom.
I use heavy kanthol wire to suspend heavier porcelain jewelry from the bead rods if i want to glaze and entire piece You will need to use two rods to suspend a bangle and then grind down the resultant small marks the wire leaves on the underside of the piece with a dremel or Foredom.
#28
Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:51 AM
Hi Fuad,
I thought I had responded to your sanding comments- maybe with this being reposted its been deleted.
Wet sanding should not create any dust at all. I use automotive suppliers wet sand paper as it gives the smoothest finish.
Half fill a bucket with water and I put all the jewellery needing sanding in there. Work on one at a time underwater = no dust!
Its a very fast process so doesnt add much to the making process, they end up smooth as glass.
I find over time they can become marked when worn often, but I just wash mine in soapy water with a soft brush and also advise buyers the same.
hope this helps Lyn
I thought I had responded to your sanding comments- maybe with this being reposted its been deleted.
Wet sanding should not create any dust at all. I use automotive suppliers wet sand paper as it gives the smoothest finish.
Half fill a bucket with water and I put all the jewellery needing sanding in there. Work on one at a time underwater = no dust!
Its a very fast process so doesnt add much to the making process, they end up smooth as glass.
I find over time they can become marked when worn often, but I just wash mine in soapy water with a soft brush and also advise buyers the same.
hope this helps Lyn

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